Comments on: Sky high arrogance http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/03/18/sky-high-arrogance/ Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:35:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Whitespaces http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/03/18/sky-high-arrogance/#comment-46960 Whitespaces Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:18:58 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/03/18/sky-high-arrogance/#comment-46960 I've had virgin media for 2 months now and was weighing up which service to go for for a while when I decided to go initally for Sky. However having completed their online forms I was horrified to notice the "£26 a month" had suddenly gone up by the "hidden" costs of set up (I wanted sky plus) which went to over £200! AND I had to fork out an extra 15 quid a month for sky plus. Sky are a money grabbing, greedy company and even though they are in a much easier position to reduce their prices to compete with Virgin they haven't done. I now get broadband, phone, XL tv and v+ box for £35 a month, the setup was £25 WHiCH WAS TAKEN OFF THE FIRST BILL anyway, so basically it was free. This is SO SO SO SO Much cheaper than greedy Sky. Why should you pay £15 or £10 a month for Sky+ WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY SHELLED at least £100 for it in the first place. Sky are using evil greedy sneaky tactics to win customers. I don't trust them. I hope Virgin win the battle. Need to get more channels on catch up though! I’ve had virgin media for 2 months now and was weighing up which service to go for for a while when I decided to go initally for Sky. However having completed their online forms I was horrified to notice the “£26 a month” had suddenly gone up by the “hidden” costs of set up (I wanted sky plus) which went to over £200! AND I had to fork out an extra 15 quid a month for sky plus. Sky are a money grabbing, greedy company and even though they are in a much easier position to reduce their prices to compete with Virgin they haven’t done.

I now get broadband, phone, XL tv and v+ box for £35 a month, the setup was £25 WHiCH WAS TAKEN OFF THE FIRST BILL anyway, so basically it was free. This is SO SO SO SO Much cheaper than greedy Sky. Why should you pay £15 or £10 a month for Sky+ WHEN YOU’VE ALREADY SHELLED at least £100 for it in the first place. Sky are using evil greedy sneaky tactics to win customers. I don’t trust them. I hope Virgin win the battle. Need to get more channels on catch up though!

]]> By: Rich http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/03/18/sky-high-arrogance/#comment-29271 Rich Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:38:56 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/03/18/sky-high-arrogance/#comment-29271 The reason the prices did not decrease with Virgin Media due to the loss of the sky channels is simple - these were free channels which were on the free TV service called Size M. No customer paid for these channels so when they came off, they still got the same channels they actually paid for, hence, no price reduction. Another fact that I think few people are aware of, is how Sky bought the carriage rights to Virgin Media channels such as Living and Bravo for 80% LESS than they had previously paid for them! They then went to Virgin Media with the bare-faced cheek to want to charge over twice the previous price for their own channels!!! I hope that sky are forced into paying a fair price for the Virgin Media channels if Ofcom find that Sky have abused their market power (which is obviously the case) to get these for less than they are worth, and that they are forced to drop their price for their channels so that Virgin Media can get these back to their customers. I suspect that Virgin Media will not want to get these back though - the impact to Virgin Media has been smaller than expected with fewer customers leaving to go to sky than anticipated. The money saved is being invested in improving the on-demand services, so I'll be interested to see what happens! The reason the prices did not decrease with Virgin Media due to the loss of the sky channels is simple - these were free channels which were on the free TV service called Size M.
No customer paid for these channels so when they came off, they still got the same channels they actually paid for, hence, no price reduction.

Another fact that I think few people are aware of, is how Sky bought the carriage rights to Virgin Media channels such as Living and Bravo for 80% LESS than they had previously paid for them! They then went to Virgin Media with the bare-faced cheek to want to charge over twice the previous price for their own channels!!!

I hope that sky are forced into paying a fair price for the Virgin Media channels if Ofcom find that Sky have abused their market power (which is obviously the case) to get these for less than they are worth, and that they are forced to drop their price for their channels so that Virgin Media can get these back to their customers.

I suspect that Virgin Media will not want to get these back though - the impact to Virgin Media has been smaller than expected with fewer customers leaving to go to sky than anticipated. The money saved is being invested in improving the on-demand services, so I’ll be interested to see what happens!

]]> By: brian http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/03/18/sky-high-arrogance/#comment-27158 brian Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:43:11 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/03/18/sky-high-arrogance/#comment-27158 "I know Virgin are not offering a reduction in price as a result, " Actually they have increased prices without adding anything to the packages! Nobody noticed this. I do have a criticism of Sky, though : I can't watch some cricket world cup matches on sky sports as they are shown via the red button, which does not work on cable. I can't help thinking this is a ruse to get people to leave cable. “I know Virgin are not offering a reduction in price as a result, ”

Actually they have increased prices without adding anything to the packages! Nobody noticed this.

I do have a criticism of Sky, though : I can’t watch some cricket world cup matches on sky sports as they are shown via the red button, which does not work on cable. I can’t help thinking this is a ruse to get people to leave cable.

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