Comments on: Download DRM-free BBC content in a Flash http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:50:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Nigel http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-152500 Nigel Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:44:10 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-152500 Interested in your postings about the stupid Iplayer 30day limit. I understand the 7day limit on download time, but once I've downloaded it, why cant I keep it? If I recorded it on old fasioned VHS I could keep it for ever. I've paid for the programme through my licence fee. Nigel Interested in your postings about the stupid Iplayer 30day limit.

I understand the 7day limit on download time, but once I’ve downloaded it, why cant I keep it? If I recorded it on old fasioned VHS I could keep it for ever.

I’ve paid for the programme through my licence fee.

Nigel

]]> By: Marmy http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-140391 Marmy Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:46:35 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-140391 I am able to download .flv files from TV Espana using Orbit Downloader. This also used to work for the BBC sites, but stopped working a couple of months ago - gives a "Wait for retry(5S)"error. The most recent upgrade to Orbit flagged up as being virus infected in AVG anti-virus, although there are suggestions that this was probably a false positive (can anyone confirm?). Have reverted to an earlier version of Orbit which still works for TV Espana but am still unable to capture BBC. Any suggestions as how to overcome this, or any software that can? I am able to download .flv files from TV Espana using Orbit Downloader. This also used to work for the BBC sites, but stopped working a couple of months ago – gives a “Wait for retry(5S)”error. The most recent upgrade to Orbit flagged up as being virus infected in AVG anti-virus, although there are suggestions that this was probably a false positive (can anyone confirm?).
Have reverted to an earlier version of Orbit which still works for TV Espana but am still unable to capture BBC.
Any suggestions as how to overcome this, or any software that can?

]]> By: Terry http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-133153 Terry Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:40:24 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-133153 Over the past week or so I have tried FLVdownloader, Hidownload without suceess. Orbit often detected, but would not download. Applian MediaCatcher seemed to work fine evertime. Little tip, with Iplayer, when collecting the streaming mode, select "high quality" which will automatically start playing and also sending the higher quality stream (I think about 30 to 50% larger file). Also BBC are currently having a variety of problems with Iplayer, also some of the glitches I have seen in the FLV were in the original broadcast !? (I have only 1 recorder and problems because BBC often start programmes upto 3 minutes before the scheduled times on evenings + some over run - so I can not rely on change over times onto different channels.) Over the past week or so I have tried FLVdownloader, Hidownload without suceess.
Orbit often detected, but would not download.
Applian MediaCatcher seemed to work fine evertime.
Little tip, with Iplayer, when collecting the streaming mode, select “high quality” which will automatically start playing and also sending the higher quality stream (I think about 30 to 50% larger file).
Also BBC are currently having a variety of problems with Iplayer, also some of the glitches I have seen in the FLV were in the original broadcast !?
(I have only 1 recorder and problems because BBC often start programmes upto 3 minutes before the scheduled times on evenings + some over run – so I can not rely on change over times onto different channels.)

]]> By: bob http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-133047 bob Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:02:44 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-133047 oh and as for stream capping, most downloaders are capable of defeating iplayers obfuscations. Where Applian WMrecorder used to work now just try their AVReplay series of progs from MediaCatcher upto the flagship product (which I had trouble with so sdon't use). Hidownload, FLVrecorder adn numerous others are all supposed to work oh and as for stream capping, most downloaders are capable of defeating iplayers obfuscations. Where Applian WMrecorder used to work now just try their AVReplay series of progs from MediaCatcher upto the flagship product (which I had trouble with so sdon’t use).

Hidownload, FLVrecorder adn numerous others are all supposed to work

]]> By: bob http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-133046 bob Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:00:17 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-133046 Now what about the quality of the FLV themselves. THey seem to be nobbled and local playback is problematical at best. Sky & Channel4 (ITN/ITV) sourced FLV video is silky smooth and v good quality. BBC FLV's can barely be played on anything without many problems, most obvious being audio glitches (strange as old school MP3). MPC has trouble playing and needs audio shifing too. VLC can be v sketchy. duration times never match and FLV Player (applian) also completely misrepsents file length (but doesn't suffer audio glitches) As for trying to convert or open in editors forget it where Sky or Ch4 content has no problems even in oldschool VDub with FLV input filter. Avidemux the same and other tools tried too numerous to list. Does anyone know what is going on? Clearly the Beeb has succeeded in crippling the FLV's to prevent archiving or local playback (to overcome network/internet issues) Now what about the quality of the FLV themselves. THey seem to be nobbled and local playback is problematical at best.

Sky & Channel4 (ITN/ITV) sourced FLV video is silky smooth and v good quality. BBC FLV’s can barely be played on anything without many problems, most obvious being audio glitches (strange as old school MP3).
MPC has trouble playing and needs audio shifing too. VLC can be v sketchy. duration times never match and FLV Player (applian) also completely misrepsents file length (but doesn’t suffer audio glitches)
As for trying to convert or open in editors forget it where Sky or Ch4 content has no problems even in oldschool VDub with FLV input filter. Avidemux the same and other tools tried too numerous to list.

Does anyone know what is going on? Clearly the Beeb has succeeded in crippling the FLV’s to prevent archiving or local playback (to overcome network/internet issues)

]]> By: Neil http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-106231 Neil Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:11:25 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-106231 I have been downlaoding .FLV using OrbitDownloader www.orbitdownloader.com. It takes a little guesswork to get the correct stream, but usually quite obvious. Firefox downlaoder and other tools i have tried don't recognise the streams on iPlayer I have been downlaoding .FLV using OrbitDownloader http://www.orbitdownloader.com.

It takes a little guesswork to get the correct stream, but usually quite obvious. Firefox downlaoder and other tools i have tried don’t recognise the streams on iPlayer

]]> By: Jonathan http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-80346 Jonathan Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:36:32 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-80346 It isn't quite as straightforward as downloading from Youtube, etc., as it uses an RTMP stream. There's quite a bit of info on the web at the moment. See for example: http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/12/downloading-from-the-bbc-streaming-iplayer-is-hard http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ If I come up with a definitive method, I'll post something new. At the moment I have operating system/firewall issues that are preventing me from trying things! It isn’t quite as straightforward as downloading from Youtube, etc., as it uses an RTMP stream. There’s quite a bit of info on the web at the moment. See for example:
http://philwilson.org/blog/2007/12/downloading-from-the-bbc-streaming-iplayer-is-hard
http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/

If I come up with a definitive method, I’ll post something new. At the moment I have operating system/firewall issues that are preventing me from trying things!

]]> By: matt http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-80172 matt Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:32:24 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-80172 You can't download content from the flash based iplayer. With sites like youtube, once you've finished watching the file, you just retreive it from the cache. This doesn't work with iplayer. You can’t download content from the flash based iplayer. With sites like youtube, once you’ve finished watching the file, you just retreive it from the cache. This doesn’t work with iplayer.

]]> By: Kev http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-77030 Kev Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:50 +0000 http://jonathan.rawle.org/2007/10/16/download-drm-free-bbc-content-in-a-flash/#comment-77030 Yes, but how do you actually do it? The FLV seems obfuscated. I know the beeb were working with adobe on the flash streaming, but I can't work out where the My usual tool, "Moyea FLV downloader" doesn't seem to work with it at all. Any tips? Yes, but how do you actually do it? The FLV seems obfuscated. I know the beeb were working with adobe on the flash streaming, but I can’t work out where the

My usual tool, “Moyea FLV downloader” doesn’t seem to work with it at all.

Any tips?

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